Brands in Jassi

I thought Jassi on Sony was against the conventional concept of beauty.
And though I watch it once in a while only, am tired of its propoganda for Loreal women, VLCC women etc
What next, fairness cream? And contacts? And some surgery?
Aargh

Land subsidy

Came across this in Bangalore Diary in http://www.outlookindia.com/diary.asp?fodname=20050328"Will somebody explain the logic of subsidising 2 crore sq ft of land to two cash-flush IT majors?" ( 43,56,000 sq ft & 1,52,46,000 sq ft)
Aargh, I cant understand....

http://o3.indiatimes.com/aargh 22.3.05

No points for blogging !!!!

I can earn points if I use Indiatimes to chat, log in its club, read articles etc. Uploading a video in Dating gets 25 points. Ok I am not grudgin those who want to upload their video, hey make a music video and upload and become the next Idol Superstar or whatever.
The point of points - Well generally there are sweepstakes and you get to win mobile TV etc. Think for entering a sweepstake you would require 10 points. There are also carrots which one accumalates for shopping online, and thru this one can win more stuff. Well I can understand the carrots, since they would want to encourage people to buy online...
But no points for blogging?? Not even 0.000000001 ?
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh .
PS : Well on 2nd check using their email also doesnt fetch points. If only I could get a point for every email I receive from Soniaiyer and Co :D
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posted by aargh @ 1:40 PM Comments (19)

An incident worth remembering.

Michael Moore attributes the publication of his book Stupid White Men: And Other Excuses for the State of the Nation, to the efforts of a lone librarian. On September 10th, Harper Collins printed the first 50,000 copies ready to be shipped. By the end of the following evening September 11th i.e 9/11, the publishing house decided it would be disastrous to distribute a book containing an open later to President Bush asking him if he was ever a drunk, felon or illiterate.
"It wasn't mean spirited," says Moore, "even I'm two out of those three." Harper Collins was in no hurry to publish a book that surfed against the patriotic wave sweeping across the country. "We'd like you to rewrite fifty-percent of it," they told Moore. They told him that "Florida cannot be called a coup," and they requested the chapter "Kill Whitey" to be reworded. When they asked Moore to change the title, he suggested, "Bring Me the Head of Antonia Scalia," as an alternative. They informed him that they would reprint the first 50,000 copies for the low, low fee of $10,000. Moore was not about to cut one word from the book.
Tired of Moore's resistance to censor himself, his editor called to tell him in late that his book "was going to be pulped."
On December 1st Moore found himself giving a presentation in New Brunswick, New Jersey. He told the audience about the struggle to get his book published and that the only copies in existence were about to be recycled and probably would come back as Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly books. Moore read the first of chapters of his book to the group. "You're probably the only people in America who will ever hear these words," he said. He asked the people in the room that day not to go to the press and make a fuss over it. It was his battle and he was determined to fight alone, away from the public eye. Somewhere in the audience that day was Ann Sparanese, a librarian from Englewood, New Jersey. She did not heed his warning about going public.
Like a cyberspace Paul Revere, Sparanese sent word to various email lists including SRRT (Social Responsibilities Round Table) and Library Juice, explaining Moore's situation. She conveyed this battle wasn't just one man's struggle with a publishing house, but was a battle to preserve free speech and to stop censorship.
Two days later Harper Collins phoned Moore. "What did you tell the librarians?" they asked. "We're getting hundreds of letters a day from angry librarians. Do you know how much business we do with these people?"
Harper Collins eventually gave Stupid White Men the green light but not before informing Mr. Moore "you are out of touch with the American people." They handed him the list of cities for the book tour. There were only three listed: Ridgewood, NJ Arlington, VA and Denver, CO. The message was clear to him, Harper Collins wanted no association with his book: Moore was on his own.
On the first day of its release, all 50,000 copies were sold. The next day it was the number one seller on amazon.com. By the fifth day, the book was in its ninth printing. As of today, it is in its twenty-second printing and is selling faster than the latest works from Grisham and Clancy combined.
"It's always one individual that sparks change; history has proven this time and again," Moore said in thanking Sparanese for completely ignoring his plea to keep his publishing squabble hushed. He noted that the day Sparanese sent her letter to the email lists, was an important day in American history, December 1st. On this day in 1955 a black seamstress boarded a bus in Birmingham, Alabama. When she was told to move to the back of the bus, she remained in her seat. She had made her stand by sitting. Her name is Rosa Parks.
from http://www.slis.indiana.edu/news/story.php?story_id=443
Moore went on to write Dude Where's my Country and the award winning film Fahrenheit 9/11 for more on him http://www.michaelmoore.com/
I saw a comment today by a blogger who didnt seem to believe that petitions can make a difference. TOI O3 exists for US . They will listen to US.http://www.petitiononline.com/mediaahp/petition.html
for more info my previous post http://o3.indiatimes.com/aargh/archive/2005/03/11/81991.aspx#Comments If you take your blogging seriously shouldnt you know take interest when a lawsuit is filed against the blogger?
IF you agree with the petition, dont hesitate to sign it, just because, you think you cant make a difference.
YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE

support oppose or ignore a lawsuit against an Indian blogger

http://www.petitiononline.com/mediaahp/petition.html
Hmmm a lawsuit slapped against a blogger. And the blogger deletes all the posts, saying cant afford to fight it out in the court. And of course the media doesnt take up the story, well perhaps because a prominent group in the media slapped the lawsuit :D
So next time the media talks about right to information and opinion etc should remember that , it doesnt mean we can have our own opinon on the media.
Well if u want to know more visit the link
Whether u want to sign the petition, start ur own petition against the petition:) or just ignore is ur choice :)

http://o3.indiatimes.com/aargh 11.3.05

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There are people out there who need us, lets not let them down. Nature didnt distingush, why should we. We have seen the Fury of Nature, now is the time to display the Force of Human Compassion. LETS SHOW WE CARE

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About itThe Prime Minister's National Relief Fund, created shortly after Independence, provides immediate relief to people in distress. The Fund depends entirely on voluntary donations received from the public.
The Fund renders assistance to individuals facing distress situations. Its resources are utilised for the provision of immediate relief to the families of those killed in natural calamities like floods, cyclones and earthquakes. It also grants assistance to families affected by major disturbances, riots and accidents. Besides, the Fund extends assistance to indigent persons to partially defray the cost of expensive medical treatment like heart surgery, kidney transplantation and cancer treatment. Over the years, lakhs of people have received assistance from this Fund.
All contributions to the Prime Minister's National Relief Fund are fully exempt from Income Tax under Section 80G of the Income Tax Act, 1961 subject to the prescribed limits. Donations to the Fund are also excluded from the computation of taxable gifts under section 5 (1) (v) of the Gift Tax Act, 1958.
Contributions to the Fund can be deposited in select branches of the Central Bank of India, State Bank of India, Bank of India, Indian Overseas Bank, Syndicate Bank and the Punjab National Bank through cheques or bank drafts in favour of the 'Prime Minister's National Relief Fund'. Receipt of the contribution will be acknowledged by the receiving bank, and the donation sent to the Fund account for deposit. Thereafter, a formal receipt for the contribution will be issued from the Prime Minister's National Relief Fund. All donors should ensure that the pay-in-slip is properly filled in while making the deposit to enable the Prime Minister's Office to issue the formal receipt. The Fund does not accept contributions in kind.
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Life is like an End User Agreement

Sunday, September 05, 2004


Life is like End User Agreements . Thats the conclusion today but before your mind starts searching for the I Accept button, let me write about what i started writing first and then come to the above point (even if they dont seem to connect).(so no need to post a comment saying huh whats the point it doesnt make sense etc. I know about it. I accept it. Its sort of a subtle style to make you think that the lawmaker could be someone like me. or frankly the muse has gone on a weekend vacation) Well so u arrive at the date, oh how awful this is. And you don't know what to talk! Its easier receiving an Oscar, all you have to say is thank you to as many people as they will allow in the alloted seconds. (Of course you will omit some but you can also say i ran out of time or say of course i mentioned you. You were the first person i mentioned. Didnt you know i thought you were God.).
Before anyone starts wondering on my obsession with dating or start thinking ïf someone writes all this dumb stuff, perhaps God kindly endowed her with beauty and perhaps, another Ash (no Ash fans i didnt call her dumb) like to clarify that i am married and on the threshold of Thirty(Yeah when you still like to think you dont look thirty and the teenagers call you Aunty!).
I have wandered far from what i started(Those of you who after reading everything on the net, including the End User agreements might click on the link "The other Sky"and come to pages which give link to other stories i have writtenand got published and importantly got paid for. Most of them deal with law and life. And some may start wondering since i write about law and since i seem to jump from one point to another with a logic which seem like a walk through a maze, if, i am a lawyer. I am not. Though i had it as a subject in B.Com. All i remember from that is Ïgnorance of law is not an excuse". Interesting in a country with the illiteracy level as ours. And what struck me was the smart guy Jeffrey Archer. (ok not smart enough to avoid prisons. but he did write books about it. who will think that writing about what he has for breakfast, lunch and dinner, and the work he has to do will make a bestseller. even if for the most of the days its the same stuff. and that too not just one book).(Anyway long long ago(when i was young) he did seem to be very smart and write smart books.)
Coming back to my ignorance of law point. By publishing his (Archer) diary, he had broken Rule 51 Para 23 by "naming staff such that they could be "identified" of the prison rules. And every immate has access to a copy of the prison rules in the library. Archer says that anyone who read his book on Belmarsh prison would know that he wasnt allowed to visit the library at Belmarsh.But even for Archer, Ignorance of law is no excuse and he was punished for it. If that could happen to JA. wonder about what the ordinary folks, know about law and how do they deal about it when they have to. On August 13, in the premises of the civil court, a group of women from the Kasturba Nagar slum of Nagpur attacked an accused rapist, Bharat alias Akku Yadav, with chilli powder, stones and sharp weapons. The result? The man died and four of the women have been taken into custody. What is even more shocking is that women police constables who knew of the case have eportedly stated, "If we were to be in their place, we would have done the same." http://www.indiatogether.org/2004/aug/ksh-justice.htm Honestly what would any one of us do, if we see a crime. Even becoming a witness, would make us think twice. We will worry not just if some don with a weird hairdo or an even worse laugh will send his henchman after us but also how many times they will have to go to police station and how many times they will have to go to court. Dont we categorise crime and think if it will be worth the effort to report it , even if we become a victim. How many will think twice before reporting a molestation or a theft of Rs.500. And worse how many will know they have been victimised. Minimum wages, laws reg sexual harrasment etc.
If you have read this far, and can't stand reading anymore of what you already know,and like the judge in the movies will like to bring me to task with an örder, order". (wishing of course that you could bang on my head); i will quickly conclude. I mentioned all this to say why i read a bit about law and write about law and life.(a site for those who would like to read about Bare Acts (dont get excited, it has nothing to do with anatomy.) http://www.helplinelaw.com
If Sweetnothings was wondering about being drunk from my irst post, after reading it now, will be wondering if this is hell after death. And The Creek will be thinking - reading this blog too should be in the never urgent never important list. (an interesting list thanks for mentioning)(Assuming of course that those who read it once will come back to read it again).Re whateveritis "Inspiration exists but it should find you working - Picaso"; i couldnt agree more but unfortunately my muse still hasnt read it. Well so if your life isn't full of people - from your teacher, to your parents to your spouses , telling you what you know you have to do, what is good for you etc etc, you have one more which makes you wonder "God what did i do wrong"- this blog. But the good thing about this blog is that while you cant shut the others, you dont have to read this. Unless, of course, you have been caught using the net in the office, and your HR manager thinks that readin this blog will keep you off the net.
When i remarked earlier about End User Agreements, i wanted to point out how many of us accept law in good faith. Since i have categorised under philosophy ( i will make another post on category) i will round off with - life is also like the End user agreement , sometimes, the best option is just to click accept.Is Accepting practical?When you resist what is happening in life, what is happening continues to happen, creating misery in you.When you accept what is happening in life, what is happening continues to happen, leaving you blissful. This is not an advertisement for inertia. There is a lot of difference between Ï dont like what is and i want it to be this and I accept what is and i would now make it this. (There is a good article on this on (i think feb 2004 Awakening)frozen

thoughts mag at www.almamater.com). And trust me, you wont roll your eyes when u read that.

PS : Lawyers are the only persons in whom ignorance of the law is not punished. Bentham, Jeremy ; 1748-1832, British Philosopher, Jurist, Political Theorist
Posted by gayathri eswar on 01:19 PM

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my 2nd post in rediff blog, pasted here.

Pa Paa Pi Piii & Legal Literacy

That was her nickname. And after more than 15 years I remembered her today. A chubby kid, hair in tight two plaits, and my younger sister her tution teacher, when we were in Mumbai. She was a student of my sister for a year. I dont remember her class but know it was at the primary level. And I remember her mother too. A big woman, anxious over her child and her grasp of Hindi. Who used to ask my sister everyday if her child would ever improve.
Oh but I didnt tell her why we called her Pa Paa Pi Pii. Well thats the way she used to write every alphabet in Hindi. For every letter she used to wonder the symbol by clicking her thumb against the fingers, with the Pa standing for the little finger, chanting quitely the Pa Paa Pi Pii etc till she arrived at the right finger and the right alphabet.
Think my sister would remember her more, after all didnt Pa Paa Pi Pii driver her crazy :) with her lack of speed in reading and writing. She used to that for every letter but since on the first day she started with Pa Paa Pi Pii, to receive a gasping sound and horror struck face from my sister, this nickname stuck to her.
She was a good student with decent marks in other subjects. I dont think she suffered from any learning disability. But to be honest, I dont remember much more of her, not even the name. Yet even now I can vividly recollect the anguish on her round chubby face. And also her earnestness to learn, and the disappointment over not being able to achieve, what her mother,and tution teacher wanted.
She did improve. And perhaps she was lucky that her parents could afford private tutions for her. And perhaps luckier to find a tutor who could knew her mother tongue and help her improve.
But wonder what happened to her later. Would it have made her stronger or weaker? Perhaps she has a better command over the language, now, than me (that wont be an achievement) or perhaps she didnt pass a standard because of her poor marks in Hindi. And suffered from lack of self confidence.
Yesterday night in a blog I argued against Hindi being imposed on students to learn. And I wondered why I took it so personally. And today morning I woke up to remember Pa Paa Pi Pii. And now cant stop wondering about her.
Language a means of communication, but what did the language communicate to her. That she was stupid for not understanding it, for not remembering it properly? That it was unpatriotic of her to not pass in a Hindi exam? Learning something new is not easy for many students. But in Pa Paa Pi Pii's case, its about , how much she has to learn and at what stage?
National language is important. But in Indonesia, it was arrived at not on the basis of what the majority spoke, but on what was easy to learn. And the majority learnt it successfully.
How many words are required for basic communication? 100? How many sentences should be known for basic communication 50?
Yet why should knowing a basic communication be an imposition at the primary level. Why should a student learn 3 languages from the primary stage itself. Is every mind capable of absorbing that burden? Why cant Hindi (even if it has become a national language without any research on how easy it is to learn,) be taught as a basic communication subject, at the secondary level without the pressure of passing in it, instead of it being taught in the same level as other two languages?
Sorry Pa Paa Pi Pii. You deserve to be remembered by me in a better manner. But if you had failed at passing Hindi at school, or dont grasp it, it doesnt make you less patriotic.

Yesterday National Legal Literacy Mission was launched by the Prime Minister. This didnt receive much attention from the press."Our constitutional commitment to the rule of law becomes an empty dream when it is beyond the grasp of the common man," "All the fundamental rights enshrined in the constitution would become illusory rights for those who do not understand them and are not aware of them""Democracy can effectively flourish only when people know their rights and privileges and also their duties and responsibilities," "Equality in law requires equal access to law for this noble principle to translate into reality," he said, promising his support for the mission which would be in force until 2010.
Legal Literacy is not about knowing the every Section of the law but the basics of the law and its spirit.
Learning Hindi from Primary school level or legal awareness for all..
What is more important and requires the focus of the nation, you decide...since when it comes to legal literacy, even the graduates are like Pa Paa Pi Piii

http://o3.indiatimes.com/wisedonkey 7.3.05

Notice to All girls,Agents,Raymond ad agency & Tom Cruise

This is for all girls who have been pestering me for my dates and who find my personality magnetic, even though I dont look like the regular heartthrob.
Please dont email me at __________ or call me at __________ True I havent found my lady love yet but I am not sure if it will be you. Please do NOT READ further, since it doesnt concern you.

Agents, though I appeared in DD and have been voted by a leading website as the Face of the Year, acting,modeling etc are my hobbies not my profession. My Boss has just given me a big promotion and I have time only for my friends,family,office,and few dates and people who need me.

I dont know the ad agency which makes Raymond ads, but please stop getting inspired from me. I am aware I am the complete man, but arent there any copyright issues here.

Tom Cruise please stop asking me for my secret.

PS : This post can be used by Momento, DW & others who desire to find dates thru Weblogs.


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A reply

Dear Mr. Khan,
You have reflected your intolerance by deleting my comments to ur post. Hence a seperate reply as a post.(I have posted the contents as the first comment for readers reference)
Well you say you dont live in Pakistan and India, well your posts reflect your lack of touch with the reality. We have been giving problems to Pakistan. Well I dont recollect India sponsoring any terrorists who operate in Pakistan. Why dont you ask your President who will attempt to take his life, Indian operatives or Al Qaeda operatives?
Re.your Most Important FactSo Islam is everywhere and also in Greenland! Well then why dont you ask the Islamic brothers of Turkey which has a population of approx 71 million people and why when 99% of them are Muslims, they still go for secular and not Islamic values.
India is not a Hindu nation, its a Secular nation. Nepal is the Hindu nation. Of course I dont want to harp again on Turkey being a Secular and not Islamic nation.
Re.Population strength, what are you going to say next, China should become an Islamic nation?
Where on earth did you get the data, that more than half of the Indian population are Muslims. What next another fanatic saying lets combine the population of India and Pakistan and if there are more Hindus, lets bring about a Hindu rashtra?
Political FactsIf there are more Indian Muslims than Pakistani Muslims then why should India become Islamic, where is the logic. The President of India is an Indian Muslim. That reflects the secular values. He is not just a token appointment and he is respected because he is an Indian first. It just shows, that it would do well for Pakistan if it could consider becoming secular.Votebank politics exist everywhere in the world. Thats the pitfall of democracy, but its better than the concept of dictatorship to many in the world. If Americans think about the jew vote, it doesnt mean they will want to become one with Israel
Re the other leaders (where did you get most of the leaders), who are Muslims, they happen to be Indian Muslims. And re Sonia, the party came to power not because she is a beautiful European but because people perceived her to be an Indian. And I wont dignify your comment on weak hindus. I am sure in your opinion, people like Modi are strong Hindus, but not to people like me.
BJP was not REJECTED. It was just coalition maths. If it had kept its former ally DMK it would have been in power.
CULTURAL FACTSI am sure people all over the world including Pakistan must be using more English words too. So what do you use urdu names for net, cellphone ,browser etc? Does it mean people should switch to Christianity?
Dawood is a mafia group, when did that become a plus point for Islam.
Re.the stars, please dont mistake courtesy with loyalty. If Shahrukh and Hrithik are popular in Pakistan , people of India do not say, Pakistan should become a part of India. And you talk about hot music video girls and then naked Hindu actress need Islam. Be consistent atleast.
CRICKET FACTSZaheer and Irfan play for India. And are Indians first. by the way, when did good bowling have anything to do with being handsome and stylish. And your Imran Khan arguement is too lucidrious. So if Sachin becomes popular in Pakistan, what will You (forget other Pakistanis) become. You dont have to become Hindu, just become secular if you can. Before talking about Sachin failing regularly check his record.
SOCIETY FACTS1.So if one gets circumcised, one gets better genes!2.So you are proud of a scamster being Islamic!3.Dawood is a mafia don and he was behind bomb blasts, thats why the police want him4.If Dr.Kalam is a President, its a victory for secularism not Islam5.Instead of teaching morals to bollywood starlets, why dont you teach some to Al Qaeda.
Instead of telling India should become a Muslim state how about if you become a secular citizen of India.
Re Hindus being weak because of being vegetarian, the Dr.Kalam you are raving about is a veggie too :)
Re your South Indian vs North Indian, please it just shows you dont have a clue. And I am a Southie , but an Indian first just like others.And re differences, are you telling me there is no conflict between Punjab and Sind?
Re.Sonia becoming a leader, So if there are female leaders in Pakistan,Bangladesh, or Sri Lanka, does it mean that the men arent manly enough? Re.her foreign origin, it just shows how broadminded we are. While you Mr.Khan, might distingush between daughters and daughters in law, seems many in our country dont.
Yes I am also grateful to Mr.Jinnah, thankfully I dont have to defend your stupidity to others as a fellow Indian.
Advantages1.Tell your population arguement to the Chinese first :)2.We know the definition of foreign rulers, perhaps Mr.Khan you would like to know about the pride in having a democratic system3.Thankfully Indian Hindus dont think like you.4.Just ask why the war began and who began the war5.Sure it will become a leading nation, but its tough convincing that to the Chinese.6.Discipline and morality like the Taliban version or Turkey version7.Well after capturing OBL, do think twice on whether you will become an enemy on the war on terror. Instead of worryin about Indians, worry about your nation first.8. Oh so there are Shia sunni clashes and that too because of India. Hmmm first you should decide if Indians while converting should become shia or sunni. And re India being responsible thats a first, perhaps you have information that you should share with your government.9.Re.cricket , have you forgotten what happened when the Indian team was in Pakistan.10.Oh so the current azad Kashmir is not azad, instead of talking about Kashmir, what about some of your "own territories" which want freedom from Pakistan
Where was your President born?
Instead of worry about the Indians, please worry about your own nation and your religion.
People like you and Osama are the ones who bring dishonour to Islam and tragically, many would judge other Muslims in India and Pakistan because of people like you.

The Post by Mr.Khan in http://o3.indiatimes.com
India should be declared as an islamic state like Pakistan. Even though I don't live in pakistan anymore, I know that India has been creating a lot of problems for my country. Here are some FACTS:MOST IMPORTANT FACT
Islam is the only religion in the world which has followers in ALL COUNTRIES. From russia to china, from Africa to Greenland, from yugoslavia to brazil. That is why Christians are afraid and keep attacking islamic countries.
There are many countries which are islamic nations, but there is only 1 hindu nation. It is better for india if they join our powerful group.
India has 1 billion people, but more than half of them are already muslims. so you see that hindus are a minority in india itself. That is why it is useless to be a hindu. It is better to become a part of a WORLD RELIGION - ISLAM
POLITICAL FACTS
India has more muslims than Pakistan.
The president of India is a muslim.
Indian politics is influenced largely by muslim voters. All big parties like congress, Lulu yadav and mulam yadav prefer only muslims
Most of the leaders in Congress are muslims, in fact all political parties need muslim candidates for elections.
The most powerful political leader is not any weak hindu, but a beautiful european Sonia
In the last elections the stupid hindu party BJP was REJECTED by the whole country, and almost all the muslim candidates defeated their hindu rivals
CULTURAL FACTS
All NEWS channels - Star news, Aajtak, Zee news, NDTV are using more and more urdu words by replacing hindi words. This is the best example of how hindi is no longer the main language of india. The indian media is realizing that Urdu is better, and more expressive instead of hindi.In fact, when I came to India last month, the news sounded exactly like the Urdu News on Pakistan TV. I am happy that Urdu is regaining its lost glory and replacing hindi as language of common man in india
The leading film stars are all our muslim brothers - Salman Khan, Shah Rukh Khan,Aamir Khan, Saif Ali Khan, Zayed Khan, Fardeen Khan, Ayub Khan, Irfan Khan and the biggest start Dilip Kumar (real name Yusuf Khan)
When Sunjay Dutt was arrested then Shah Rukh came out in his support and said that Sunjaybaba was being targetted by hindu fanatics because his mother Nargis was a muslim
In an interview Dilip Kumar (real name Yusuf Khan) said that he wished he had gone to pakistan because of the discrimination he faced in the indian film industry
When Saif Ali Khan went for shooting in Lahore, he said it was like coming HOME, because that is the birthplace of all Khans
More and more hindu women in film industry prefer muslim men because they are more handsome, big and strong.
Most of the films are financed by the exiled king of mumbai - Dawood Ibrahim and his influential friends
Most beautiful woman - katrina kaif, soha ali khan, nauheed, mumait khan and Negar khan (hot music video girls)

CRICKET FACTS
Their best bowlers are muslim - Zaheer Khan, Irfan Pathan who are also the most handsome and stylish
Most of the indian women still love Imran Khan bhai even today when he is over 40. There is not a single hindu cricket player who has that kind of love from people, except maybe sachin who is short & chubby.
Only the muslim players have the killer instinct, that is why the majority of players (including sachin) fail regularly.

SOCIETY FACTS
It is well known that muslim men have better genes because they are taller, stronger and more athletic. That is why hindu men are beginning to feel threatened by islam, because more and more women are preferring strong, handsome muslim husbands. (Maybe it is because hindus are not circumcised.)
Their biggest scam artist is also a muslim - Abdul Karim Telgi who became a billionaire by taking advantage of the corrupt hindu goverment.
The man who owns Mumbai - Dawood Ibrahim. He represents the oppressed muslims in india and he has done a lot to help the poor people. But the bombay police want to kill him becoz he is muslim.
India's genius rocket scientist - Abdul Kalam who is now the president of India. This is a great victory.
The moral of hindu society are falling and they need the power of islam to show children the right path to allah, and to cover the naked bodies of hindu actresses who dance in hindi films without shame.
The list goes on and on. India has become famous and powerful only because of the muslims who gave their lives for it. But today they are suffering in Kashmir and other places. If india is declared a muslim state, then all muslims will be free to live like first citizens and it will not be a problem for pakistan anymore. Then we can take kashmir without a fight.
Hindus are sometimes good people, but they are basically weak because they are vegetarians. That is why they compromise so easily. They don't have the killer instinct, that is why they keep losing in cricket.
Actually there are two types of hindus -
South indian (madrasi) - these are PURE BREED, original hindus who were kicked to south india by the great islamic conquerers like Taimur, Nadir Shah, Mohammed Ghauri and Babar. They are short, dark skinned and like to eat coconut oil. South indian hate north indians.
North indians (bihari) - these are MIXED BREED hindus who are actually sons of the muslim soldiers who came with Taimur and other great fighters. North indians are generally tall and fair because their muslim ancestors were tall and fair too. In some cases the women actually converted to islam to save their souls. North indians think that south indians are foolish. there is no unity in india
HISTORY OF MUSLIMS IN INDIA
In the beginning india was divided into many small kingdoms, then Alexander the great came. he defeated all the weak hindu kings. Then many jehadis came to india and they introduced islam. After the great conquerer babar (who was a descendent of Taimur) the mughals ruled india for hundreds of years. Then the british came. So India was never ruled by the hindus at all.
Today india is being ruled by a tall, beautiful european woman called sonia.(she is hotter than any hindu woman and has a better figure, i like her dark, cunning eyes!). She has worked hard to reach this position and in true mughal tradition, she had a lot of people killed to remove them from her path. She has proved that hindu men are basically weak and impotent becoz there was not a single man in a country of 1 billion. I find that funny!
There are many who say that she is indian, but this is the typical thinking of a hindu. They have no pride or self-respect. So they try to hide these weaknesses by pretending to be "liberal" people who "accept" a foreign ruler.
I am not against Sonia, in fact I admire and love her becoz she has shown indians how to hold power. It is a great lesson for them.
Actually, Hindus are so used to being ruled by foreigners that they don't feel ashamed at all. Such a shameful thing can NEVER happen in a PROUD ISLAMIC COUNTRY
I am glad that Qaid-E-Azam Mohammed Ali Jinnah saved us from this humiliation by making Pakistan free from the weak Hindus.
Anyway, my point is that if india is declared as islamic state, then it will have the following advantages-
ADVANTAGES
India has more muslims than all islamic countries - pakistan, saudi arabia, qatar, libya etc etc so when india becomes a part of pakistan they will get respect from all these countries.
Pakistan can teach india about pride and self-respect so that it doesn't have to accept foreign rulers
There would be no more religion riots becoz ISLAM will be the only religion. everyone is equal in darbar of ALLAH.
Pakistan will have peace becoz the war with india will end.
Pakistan can become a leading nation
Indian society will gain a lot from the discipline of islam
Indian women will learn about morality and "sharm-o-haya" (dignity) by reading the HOLY KORAN
America has already declared Pakistan as the most valuable friend. If india joins pakistan, then they can also get F-16 planes and enjoy the favours of America.
india will stop sending terrorists into pakistan for starting shia-sunni riots and there will be peace.
Pakistani cricket team can teach indians cricket team about killer instinct so they can find their manhood
Kashmir was snatched away by india unfairly. After joining pakistan the kashmiris will be azad againIndian prime minister Mamohan said that we should break down the Berlin Wall and join both countries again
I AGREE TOTALLY. Manmohan Singh was born in Lahore and he is right. I suggest that we break down the borders and change India's name so that its new muslim identity can make the NEW Pakistan great once more.
I am sure that all you hindus will agree. It is for YOUR own good. After all, there is no life without HONOR AND PRIDE.
Inshallah, i hope all of you hindus open your eyes to the majesty of Allah and see that the true enemy is Christianity which is attacking our brothers in Iraq and Palestine.
posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 7:42 PM
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Least offensive comment

Its easy to come up with offensive comment, but can some one come up with the Least Offensive Comment ? Hmmm sort of a slow cycling race. And the winner gets... perhaps a word of appreciation from some and highly offensive comments from some others.:) Don't worry Winner you can call them Losers :)
RULES
1. Definition of Offensive - adjective - “ cause anger or annoyance“ . Is it possible to phrase an offense less offensively? I leave it to the bloggers to come up with it and the blogger to whom it is addressed to be the judge. General jokes, stories etc are NOT valid.
2. It must be addressed to a specific blogger. Other communities, persons not allowed. So no Ash or Ganguly or politicians etc.
3. Multiple entries allowed, i.e you can use the same comment on various bloggers
4. The next round, if it comes to that will be between those comments which have been acknowldeged by those whom it was addressed to as “not an offensive comment” . And perhaps there will be a poll on those comments after that.
5. Creativity will be encouraged . Generalising communities, cities and talking about blogger's sexuality and sexual history and your sexual relations with the blogger's parents, siblings, spouse, children, etc are passe and may not be thought of as Least Offensive.
6. No copyright issues please, other bloggers will freely borrow from your idea and improvise.
7. English is the preferable, but if one uses another language, please provide a rough translation in English
8. There is no immediate deadline at the moment.And if there is deadline, it will be mentioned in this post.
9. Feedback is essential part of this contest. If you find you are not offended by an “abuse“ do mention it. Vote fixing, if noticed will be frowned upon. While you might take care in being not offensive, its possible the blogger to whom its addressed might not share your views. Please do not respond with a more offensive comment, but think of a more creative offensive comment and thus another opportunity will not be wasted.
10. Humour will be an obvious added advantage
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
1.Who can participate? Any blogger can participate.
2.Whom can be it be addressed to? It can be addressed to any blogger except those mentioned in the exclusion list. However for feedback purpose, its advisable to direct it at a frequent blogger who would visit this blog. Any comment directed towards other personalities, communities will not only be disqualified but also deleted.
3.What if I dont participate, but another blogger posts an offensive comment against me? You can just give your feedback, by posting “Its offensive“ or “It could be included in the Least Offensive Comments List (or LOCL)“ ? (Please mention the name, date and time while nominating a comment for the next round)You can also choose to ignore it. Or you can post an offensive comment against the blogger who posted one against you. Obviously if yours is Less Offensive you could emerge a Winner. Or you can say "Improvise" and choose not to nominate the entry Or if you think indulging in this “sport“ is a waste of time and still do not want your name tarnished, do post a comment with the message “I do not wish to participate in this contest, please exclude my name“. And your name will be included in the excluded list. It will be mentioned in this post and any comment directed at you will be deleted. Please note any blogger who is in the Excluded List cannot choose to participate and just post comments against other bloggers or pass any comment against other bloggers in this post. That will be deleted.
4.Is there a restriction on the number of entries I can post ? No.
5.What if someone posts in my name? If its termed Least offensive, you could be the winner and have the last laugh. But if your name is in the Excluded List, you can't participate in the contest. Any dispute on such issues will be settled by this blogger and past history of the blogger comments will be taken into account. Similarly since its possible for a blogger to post the comment and the feedback, even after the nominations, suspicious entries can be vetoed by this blogger.
6.What if I want to post in some other name? Either you dont want to win or you are confident that your entry won't win. Either way you are losing an opportunity. And I call you a loser even though I dont know your name.
7.What is the practical value of a contest like this? Shouldn't we be discussing serious issues, instead of indulging in petty contests? In our day to day life, we would like to make offensive remarks against many. But we don't do it because of the repurcussions. By entering in a contest like this or by watching passively a contest like this, one gets tips on how to be offensive without causing offense. If we could learn a way to communicate our wish for the other person to rot in hell in a better manner, our life would be free of considerable stress. By participating too, one gets to practise the thoughts. And it could be a stress buster.
8.How do you benefit from this? Hmmm I care for the welfare of the bloggers. And also would like to channelise their efforts. And perhaps this will reduce the number of irrelevant offensive comments in other posts. In short I am an angel.
9.What if some of the bloggers take my comment to the heart and post offensive comments against me in other blogs? Point out to the fellow blogger that they couldnt post a comment less offensive than yours. Challenge them to do it and direct their attention to this post.
10.What if I want to just check the feedback and not go through the entire comment section for feedback. The poll results will be updated from time to time on another blog http://o3.indiatimes.com/g3polls
11.Too much power in your hands. What if you fix it and win yourself. I will be a passive participant. I won't submit entries, but you can choose a comment against me and i will give feedback. If you think you have better chances by posting an offensive comment against my name, since I am a passive participant, think again. I campaign frequently against offensive comments. And though other active participants, may not give you the deserved feedback, their standards for offensive comments are high, so you could score either way. And when it comes to tie, the person who has posted LOC against the maximum number of bloggers will emerge the winner.
12.Is it practically possible to post a Least Offensive Comment? Well unless you try, you won't know.
A diplomat is supposed to be a person who can tell someone to go to hell and make the person look forward to it. If you win this contest perhaps you should think about a new career.
EXCLUSION LIST


A stupid post in retrospect. When my blog on metrosexuals in http://o3.indiatimes.com/hmmm was filled with abuses thought it would be a good idea to divert the abusive comments traffic to another blog http://o3.indiatimes.com/Fightitout The blog deleted by o3 by mistake.

Maybe a coincidence but few hours after the blog started, o3 stopped abuses in comments :D

Date Chat

"The fantastic first lines>Have you watched anyone prepare for their first date. When you want to grind your teeth and yell, its no big deal, stop fussing. But still you have to be polite and say "Wonderful", "Beautiful"etc etc. Tough isn't it? I will tell you what is tougher. Its getting ready for the first date. You want to make a fantastic impression and your best friend is just not helping you .Writing the first few lines in the blog, is feeling something similar to that.You want to dazzle the readers with your wit and wish that they would be impressed and will bookmark the page and await with eagerness nowadays reserved for J.K.Rowling; the next posting. But the muse refuses. And you are left staring at the screen till the screensaver makes the appearance.Therefore instead of waiting for the big idea, the best one liner, and spending months over preparing for that, I thought i will begin "
That was my first words in the blog world (no this was not in o3). I will be merciful and not post the entire post from http://gayathiri.rediffblogs.com/2004_29_08_gayathiri_archive.html.
Huh huh talk about attention seeking gayathri who makes a big deal about her posts.
And then I followed it up later with "Well so u arrive at the date, oh how awful this is. And you don't know what to talk! Its easier receiving an Oscar, all you have to say is thank you to as many people as they will allow in the alloted seconds. (Of course you will omit some but you can also say i ran out of time or say of course i mentioned you. You were the first person i mentioned. Didnt you know i thought you were God.). " And again I will be merciful and not post the entire post.
No. This is not my blog biography.
Well its tough to think of a post when you have a blog with the title Neverrelevant. There are people out there who would wonder if there can be a conversation where I will get tongue tied. Well as a matter of fact, there is one. I cant imagine what I would talk on a date. Casual conversations with guys no problems. Debates with guys, hey nothing better, but just being a regular female.
Huh whats that?? Yday while suggesting to that guy who seems to have a female fan club in Domlady blog, realised that I wouldnt know what to advise, if a girl asked me, what one should talk about during the dates. And since I couldnt think of a post for the Irrelevant blog, posting this. Dont know if there is a connection. But hey , I dont want to think a lot during the 5th day of the match.

http://o3.indiatimes.com/neverrelevant o3 deleted the blog by mistake

Watch what your kid is watching

In today's nuclear families, TV started as a baby sitter. But now TV has become the third parent. And some studies show that kids trust TV more than parents!!
Couple of days back I happened to see a cartoon channel with a kid. And the degree of violence shown in some of them is amazing. People complain about vulgar music videos but surely this too is serious.
When we have censor board deciding on what adults should watch, shouldnt there be some rating for these programmes by psychologists to guide the parents like above 3 above 6 etc.
How can we expect our kids to realise mindless violence is not ok, when its ok in cartoons. In fact many cartoons seem to suggest that violence is a form of fun. The child may not be able to distingush the difference between the real world and cartoons. If a parent goes about being violent to others we condemn and say its a poor example for the child, but when the third parent does it, shouldnt society step in?

http://o3.indiatimes.com/nopromises O3 deleted it by mistake.

The Send off Party

"Please dont go" some said. "We will miss you" some sobbed. What happened was, she had been kicked .
Yeah kicked out of the office. She wasnt quitting her career. Just this job. So did the Boss really want her in the office? Could it have been the salary?Or was it the office atmosphere or some seedy sexual harrassment. Or perhaps she had been doing her colleagues jobs too and couldn't couldnt handle the job pressure. Or had she been performing poorly?
Oh. Perhaps the Boss would miss her because he can't criticise her anymore. And the colleagues because they wouldn't shine in contrast to her anymore or because no one would be around to do their job anymore?
Why didnt she tell the true reason, perhaps she couldn't care less.
The company was not going to collapse because of a person. It was there before she joined and will exist and perhaps shine better after her exit.
Perhaps the sentiments are genuine. But because it will suit by blog title, I would like to think she was Kicked..


from http://o3.indiatimes.com/kick o3 deleted the posts by mistake.

2nd post in kick series. : Kick the first expression of life.

Hmmm did it have something to do with my saying I will be quitting o3, your guess is as good as mind :)

What to kick

Kick Kick Kick the mind screamed. But only kicked the ground. The football seemed to be somewhere else with someone. Bah. A loser. And now the stares and smirks.
Is this all one gets for one's efforts and energy? A broken toe nail. And a squashed ego, nevermind trying to squash the football. Wanting to be a hero and ending up wanting to be atleast a zero. Wanting to kick high, and ending up falling flat.
Should one feel better and think didnt kick the opponent, just the ground. No way, perhaps walking off due to the red flag would have been better. Better the opponent fans boo then the supporters scorn.
Aah grrrrr no cheerleaders around to kick their legs high, and let the spirits soar high.
Bend it like Beckham indeed! The knees had folded and also the spirits. Failure, the ghost which will haunt forever?

in http://o3.indiatimes.com/kick o3 by mistake deleted the blog posts.

The first in the kick series : Kick - The first expression of life

hungersite and 9/11

Another 9/11 . And hopefully media frenzy over it,will be over too. Wanted to write something phil or funny but after readin online 9/11 stuff, just wanted to mention about hunger. when 24000 die EVERYDAY from hunger thats around 11 , 9/11 tragedies EVERYDAY, right? Therefore just decided to add the thehungersite link to the homepage and request whoever happens to read this to visit thehungersite atleast once a month.

http://gayathiri.rediffblogs.com 12.9.04

Harvard wants my biodata - lalu

Re.Harvard wants my biodata - LaluSociology Dept of Harvard wants to do a research on Lalo? Ok but what really is the topic of research?

http://gayathiri.rediffblogs.com/2004_12_09_gayathiri_archive.html 13.9.04

Politics mars food distribution in Bihar

Politics mars food distribution in BiharYet to find something more ridiculous today . Rs. 6-7 lacs waiver reqd for transporting grains to Bihar with posters of Sonia Gandhi by Youth Congress from railways . But Railways (RJD- laloo) refuses because assembly elections next year even though he is from Bihar. And home ministry(Congress) pays . Oh so stupid of me to think that ultimately money comes from us! Wonder if home ministry would have paid if the grains were collected from BJP! Of course the BJP is busy with tiranga yatra and such stuff and doesnt have time, to think about people waiting for food

http://gayathiri.rediffblogs.com/2004_12_09_gayathiri_archive.html 13.9.04

Gudiya

Gudiya

http://gayathiri.rediffblogs.com/2004_12_09_gayathiri_archive.html 13.9.04

Nandi

NaandiWe prefer to complement the government’s work. State-run schools today cater only to those who cannot afford expensive schooling. Ou Our objective is a total makeover of these schools," says Manoj Kumar, CEO, Naandi Foundation. A developmental economist, he says this involves planning by professionals—not just ideologically driven individuals. Naandi’s intervention in government schools is multi-pronged. It includes honing learning skills of students, providing textbooks and building libraries. It also trains and motivates teachers and builds infrastructure. The foundation is now working with some 1,500 schools across Andhra Pradesh. Naandi’s Support Our Schools programme is backed by another one called the Power 10 where people are asked to make donations in multiples of Rs 10. It raises funds through corporate and individual donations. In the first four years, it spent Rs 314.14 lakh in education initiatives. This includes Rs 276.25 lakh on mid-day meal programmes for all 880 state-run schools in Hyderabad. Given its success, Naandi has been invited to run similar projects in Bihar and MP. You can contact Naandi at: 502, Trendset Towers, Road #2, Banjara Hills, Hyderabad—500 034. Tel: 040-23556491/92 email info@naandi.net

http://gayathiri.rediffblogs.com/2004_12_09_gayathiri_archive.html 13.9.04

Jananeethi

In 2000, through Jananeethi’s efforts, Thichur ward in Thrissur became litigation-free. The Kerala government declared this a model ward and asked that it be replicated aross the state. Jananeethi is taking the idea further.Last month Mullakkara ward was declared not just litigation-free but 100 per cent legally literate as well. The team visits each home to spread the word about legal and human rights, discusses issues like dowry and domestic violence and holds legal literacy classes. Funding is a hand-to-mouth affair with some donations or annual project grants from human rights organisations coming in at the last minute to pull Jananeethi out each year. Contact Jananeethi at TB Road, Mission Quarters, Thrissur—680 001, Kerala. Tel: 0487-2427338, 2444473. e-mail: jananeethi@asianetindia.com. website: www.jananeethi.orgPS : Atleast lets send them a new year greeting

http://gayathrie.rediffblogs.com 25.09.04

Fizz of Child labour

The Fizz Of Child Labour In the guise of celebrating team spirit, the latest Pepsi advertisement on TV romanticises child labour and offers it celebrity endorsement. Perhaps the Advertising Standards Council of India needs to step in?--.The Pepsi advertisement romanticises child labour and offers it celebrity endorsement. It justifies and encourages the use of child labour. Perhaps the Advertising Standards Council of India will see reason and urge PepsiCo India to immediately withdraw the advertisement. Colas not only seem to have permitted levels of pesticides that could harm your body; their ads have permitted levels of irresponsibility that can harm the moral fabric of society. S. Anand . Outlookindia.comOne may not entirely with certain other observations in the article, but surely one agrees on the above statement. If you agree with above and wish to do something you, can complain online with http://www.asci.co.in/. takes less than 5 minutes, click on on the How to Complain in the ASCI website.Posted by gayathri eswar on 12:46 PM

http://gayathrie.rediffblogs.com/ 26.9.04

Sterve Martini

Steve MartiniIf you loved Grisham's The Firm, you will probably enjoy Steve Martini. Have read almost all his books. They are about law, but invariably the climax always has a twist.
His books areThe Arraignment, The Jury, The Attorney, Critical Mass, The List, The Judge, Undue Influence, Prime Witness,Compelling Evidence & The Simeonn Chamber. Simeon Chamber his first book. Other than Simeon Chamber,Critical Mass & The List, the books are about a lawyer Paul Madriani. Later I will try to write on each of his works..His website https://stevemartini.com
People are bound to judge a blog by the first post and I suppose I could have come up with a better one. But Steve Martini personally means a
lot to me. I am somewhat of a control freak and hate seeing, reading anything, about which I dont have an idea and also have very specific likes and dislikes. And when I (reluctantly) picked up Steve Martini, I didnt have a clue about him though Grisham's endorsement was featured prominently :).
And when I finished the book ,I realised sometimes, suprises arent always bad. (Ha ok u knew that. But prob was I didnt believe good suprises were possible.)And similarly hoping to be pleasantly suprised thru this blog. But judging by the first comment, I guess its going to be unlikely :)

http://o3.indiatimes.com/nopromises 1.11.2004

World Deaf Day

You cannot do a kindness too soon, because you never know how soon it will be too late a proverb from icicicommunities.org
World Deaf Day... "Blindness cuts you off from things; deafness cuts you off from people."- these are the profound words of Helen Keller.

Have you ever wondered how the "spoken word" of the moving hand makes deaf people a part of the world at large? World Deaf Day is celebrated every year on September 23 to appreciate the fact that deaf people have their own linguistic and cultural identity and it is our social responsibility to support them.

Log on to icicicommunities.org to donate to NGOs working for the deaf... ICICIcommunities brings you a secure and trusted way to reach out to the millions of economically & socially challenged citizens of India and help change their lives. Donate, Shop, Volunteer. You choose how you'd like to contribute! ICICIcommunities will ensure that your contribution reaches those you feel need your care and concern.the least you can do regarding this is site is add its banner to your blog or homepage or including its address in your email signature or subscribe to its newsletter..

http://gayathrie.rediffblogs.com/ 21.09.04

Darfur

Darfur???Over 30,000 people are estimated to have been killed in Darfur, Western Sudan since the conflict erupted in February 2003. More than one million people have been driven from their homes and 170,000 have sought refuge in neighboring Chad, many of them beyond the reach of humanitarian agencies. Sounds serious? well heres what u can do amnesty link

http://gayathrie.rediffblogs.com 15.9.2004